Join Adam Larson as he sits down with Michael Nagel—author of "Flourishing Together" and Founder of Collective Breakthroughs—for a candid conversation about what truly drives breakthroughs in organizations. From an unconventional start in social work to leading strategy projects at KPMG, Michael shares how understanding people in context is just as vital as mastering numbers and systems. They unpack lessons from the heyday of Balanced Scorecards, examine the pitfalls that even top-performing companies face, and explore the hidden power of silence—and missed opportunities—in the workplace. With a bit of music inspiration, Michael introduces his breakthrough intelligence (BIQ) framework, offering practical wisdom for accounting and finance professionals who want to make an impact in today’s changing business environment. If you’re ready for fresh takes on leadership, organizational behavior, and how to ask smarter questions, this episode is packed with insights you can put to work right away.