Feeling burned out or just running on empty during this Holiday season? In this episode of Count Me In, host Adam Larson sits down with special guest Ting Song, Executive Director for JPMorgan Chase & Co, to talk all things burnout—what it really is, how to spot it early, and what you can do to take back your energy and well-being. Ting shares her personal journey through burnout, the turning points that helped her recover, and actionable advice you can start using right away (including the surprisingly simple power of a 5-minute break).

 

If you’ve ever wondered about the difference between everyday stress and real burnout, how changing just a few habits can make a huge difference, or how to balance ambition with self-care, this is the episode for you. Ting brings both empathy and expertise, making complex challenges feel relatable and offering practical tips you’ll actually want to try.

 

Tune in for an honest, uplifting conversation packed with real stories, helpful strategies, and a reminder that it’s okay (and important) to play, have fun, and set boundaries—even in the busiest seasons of life.